i posted for the first time on jwd.. thank you for putting up with me, and for being there for me.. what a difference a year makes........... i love you all!!!!
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Hapy JWD year-day Wings...
It was nice to talk to you the other day... You.ve been through much, but I am learning that it is so therapuetic to talk to other people about the exJW experience... It helps me get through the day and not feel sorry for myself.
Take care, hope to talk to you again soon.
guys, for those who know me here, i apologize in advance for being such troublesome pain in the ass.
i have had some scary low spots these past two years, and was imo on way too many meds.
i really had a death wish for awhile, and do not want to revist that feeling.
Aude:
I loved your post!!!
Your mention of the therapist reminds me when I went to a therapist for the first time in my life. He listened to me for a while, how my thoughts were all f**ked up, and he came to the conclusion: "Maybe its your religion that's the problem, have you ever thought of that?" I didn't accept it then, but ... Wow... took me two years to realize that he was right.
Oompa, as has been said, try to establish relationships with real people, and get on with your life! Doesn't necessarily mean breaking up the marriage, but she needs to accept you for who you are and want to be now, not who she married way back when.
I left you a VM. Call if you want.
Take care.
guys, for those who know me here, i apologize in advance for being such troublesome pain in the ass.
i have had some scary low spots these past two years, and was imo on way too many meds.
i really had a death wish for awhile, and do not want to revist that feeling.
Aude:
I loved your post!!!
Your mention of the therapist reminds me when I went to a therapist for the first time in my life. He listened to me for a while, how my thoughts were all f**ked up, and he came to the conclusion: "Maybe its your religion that's the problem, have you ever thought of that?" I didn't accept it then, but ... Wow... took me two years to realize that he was right.
Oompa, as has been said, try to establish relationships with real people, and get on with your life! Doesn't necessarily mean breaking up the marriage, but she needs to accept you for who you are and want to be now, not who she married way back when.
I left you a VM. Call if you want.
Take care.
guys, for those who know me here, i apologize in advance for being such troublesome pain in the ass.
i have had some scary low spots these past two years, and was imo on way too many meds.
i really had a death wish for awhile, and do not want to revist that feeling.
Hell, I like ya. You've just hit a bump........about a HUGE bump. I have faith in ya though.
What oompa has ED?????
J/K (I think that's something oompa would have said anyway, or maybe ninja)
guys, for those who know me here, i apologize in advance for being such troublesome pain in the ass.
i have had some scary low spots these past two years, and was imo on way too many meds.
i really had a death wish for awhile, and do not want to revist that feeling.
Oompa,
First of all I would like to say that you are a very likeable person... you have a great sense of humor that sends me and probably many other posters cracking up. I say this because this means that if you allow yourself, you can probably begin to form friendships very easily. But you have to start reaching out and making friendships. Call people, whether JWDers, or better yet, non-JWs so you can get a fresh perspective.
John Doe made an interesting point:
I would suggest telling your wife exactly what you're thinking about. If she doesn't or can't listen, then that should make your decision more clear. No matter what, right, wrong or indifferent, you need to be able to tell your wife exactly how you feel, and that's reciprocal. For a JW though, this can be extra difficult. JW's aren't supposed to be individuals or have worries or doubts. Repression kills.
You need to level with your wife as to what you want and need from your marriage. I spoke to my wife a few days ago, and explained several things that would need to change immediately due to my leaving JWs, and she accepted the new terms! So you need to see if your wife will allow you to continue to enjoy life.
Call me if you want to chat over a cup of tea... or a beer... whatever...
Take care,
hi guys.
am a relative newbee and still a member of the borg, two weeks ago had 2 elders visit ostensibly to shepherd/correct me for sharing some personal study viewpoints which they heard had upset a bro and sis who had not bothered to contact me in the spirit of matt 18 although according to one of the elders this is one of the most abused scriptures in the bible , the r&f spillling the beans on each other to the boe and the elders listening to any hearsay and then confronting brothers, any experiences ?
also i had been seen visiting my dfd daughter and son in law ( also posters here ) this resulted in my having some basic priveledges removed,assembly attendant, pioneer, regional bc helper.. i wrote a letter of concern and copied to our co who took the time to visit me and in the presence of the elders agreed that their decision was technically wrong and not a demonstration of kindness , also that my relationship with my family was not one for a general judgement but was between my conscience and jehovah, the time i might spend with them was my affair and only if stumbling was to occur within the cong might it be flagged up for further counsel.
Welcome, Frisbee!
This is the most current info I could find:
km8/02p.4par.9DisplayChristianLoyaltyWhenaRelativeIsDisfellowshipped******
Relatives
NotintheHousehold: "The situation is different if the disfellowshipped or disassociated one is a relative living outside the immediate family circle and home," states TheWatchtower of April 15, 1988, page 28. "It might be possible to have almost no contact at all with the relative. Even if there were some family matters requiring contact, this certainly would be kept to a minimum," in harmony with the divine injunction to "quit mixing in company with anyone" who is guilty of sinning unrepentantly. (1 Cor. 5:11) Loyal Christians should strive to avoid needless association with such a relative, even keeping business dealings to an absolute minimumSo there is not an absolute prohibition, just a recommendation to keep it to a minimum.
A@G
a few weeks ago someone posted a book that seemed very interesting, but i can't seem to find the thread or the book online.. it was a book about reading the bible, but keeping the context of the bible writers views in mind... does anyone know which book i am talking about?.
thanks,.
a@g.
Yes there a a ton out there... Just that the book that I saw on a thread intrigued me, so I was hoping someone would remeber the thread. Something like looking at the Bible from the writer's standpoint and historical context.....
Thanks...
a few weeks ago someone posted a book that seemed very interesting, but i can't seem to find the thread or the book online.. it was a book about reading the bible, but keeping the context of the bible writers views in mind... does anyone know which book i am talking about?.
thanks,.
a@g.
Yes I saw that on Amazon, and I may get it, but there was a diferent book that was posted, about the setting of the Bible and how that affects our understanding of it today. Anyone else?
Cheers,
a few weeks ago someone posted a book that seemed very interesting, but i can't seem to find the thread or the book online.. it was a book about reading the bible, but keeping the context of the bible writers views in mind... does anyone know which book i am talking about?.
thanks,.
a@g.
A few weeks ago someone posted a book that seemed very interesting, but I can't seem to find the thread or the book online.
It was a book about reading the Bible, but keeping the context of the Bible writers views in mind... Does anyone know which book I am talking about?
Thanks,
lets have a free for all .
i would say why dont you have a book study anymore but that one is done to death... we had a witness recently and i asked for the latest jw only mag (he didn't realise i used to be in his cong... have i done that good a job at fading?
) it was a laugh to see the two of them struggle to come up with an answer.... ok lets here the best you can come up with, there has to be some better than mine, what question will leave them stuck for an answer...... .
I'd first ask them to prove 1914 from the Bible... (which 99% probably can't)
If I find the 1% of witnesses that actually have memorized the society's "proof" texts on that, then I would ask, so where does the Bible say that 1919 is a marked year in Bible prophecy?
